. >> and in the same sense they didn't know that george bush was that type of country. >> stephanie: rudy giuliani. >> rich people have more money, they hire more people and spend more money. you should not raise taxes when the economy is in trouble. the economy is in more trouble today, so why is he in favor of raising taxes now, if he was opposed to it a year ago. >> stephanie: it's despicable. >> america's mayor everyone. if rich people hired more people when they had more money, we would have like an unemployment rate of zero at this point. rich people are doing so much better than they have ever done before, their tax rate is lower than it has ever been. they should be hiring people up the wa-zoo at this point. >> they are in china. >> yeah. and people like rudy giuliani get jobs to go on television, and if anybody should be unemployed it should be him. >> stephanie: that's right. thank you karl frisch. love you, mean it. >> all right. talk to you soon. [ applause ] >> stephanie: i'm sleepy this morning. bee in virginia. we have instant pundits all morning long. hi bee. >> calle